Dr. Hassan M. Noor (
Shaatigadud) “ There is No Peace without Justice”
The Leader of
the Digil and Mirifle population Dr. Hassan Mohamed Noor best known as
Shatigadud is in London U.K for health related trip since the last week of
February month 2002.
Though he is
not conducting political meetings , he accepted to meet with his own
population and brief them about the actual and imminent situation in
Somalia generally and particularly the situation in the Maayland regions
mostly inhabited by the Digil and Mirifle population.
Mohamed Noor met with his population after they have
requested in two very productive meetings , one was held in
Manchester U.K , and the other one was held in London U.K where the Digil
and Mirifle Leader has clearly pinpointed the political agenda and
strategy of the Digil and Mirifle population towards the rest of the other
Somali populations and the International Community.
very sensitive questions asked by the meeting participants to H.E Dr.
Hassan Mohamed Noor
were the followings:-
Hassan ; you have been in Addis Ababa for the last two months; what was
the purpose of your long Stay
In Ethiopia I have led a large delegation of the Digil and Mirifle
leaders after we have received an
Official invitation from the Ethiopian Authority. We have met high
ranking Ethiopian Authorities and
discussed with them
the bilateral relation between our two populations plus the best and
approach to the Somali problems. We also met with some of the
diplomatic missions in Addis Ababa
and have forwarded to them our Internal and external policies which
was very appreciated.
Q:- Some of
your critics oppose against your cooperation with some figures in the SRRC
whom they blame
For their past actions against the Somali population generally ,
and particularly against the Digil and
Mirifle population such as gen. Morgan , Aden Gabyow and Hussen
Why are you keeping them in Baidoa and accept them as your
A:- I am very
proud of my population who are struggling for their freedom , and I am
very confident that
Soon they will see their dream realized. About their criticism of
my policy , I would reaffirm to them
That we are in a democratic society where the freedom
of expression is well respected , and must be
Respected by everyone belonging to my population including myself.
What concerns our political tactics
I would like to make clear that “ Digil and Mirifle population
No permanent enemy , instead they have a permanent interest”.
Q:- In a
recent statement the TNG president Abdiqassim Salad has accused the
opposition of creating
Obstacles for the Somali reconciliation process by arming their
militiamen to destabilize the peace
In the country with the sole aim of dividing the country into
Somaliland , Puntland , Hiranland,
Banadirland, Jubbaland , Bayland , Bakolland and so on with the
help of the Ethiopians.
What is your answer about Abdulqassim’s accusations ? Will you
attend the next peace Conference
That is scheduled to be held in Nairobi Kenya next month?
A:- There is
no government in Somalia , and Abdulqassim should not claim to be
president in order to
Make it possible to happen any peace and reconciliation
for Somalia. It is very exaggerated when
Abdulqassim lists all those so called lands, with the sole
intention of creating clouds of confusions
for the Somalis and International Communities;
but the reality is that Somalia must be built under the
Federal system of governments that will not exceed the followings:-
Somaliland , Puntland , Central=
Land , and Maayland ; this is what we are fighting for and what the
International Community is
Considering to be the only solution for the Somali political
confusions. We will attend the proposed
Peace conference by the IGAD
member states if all parties will participate equally ; and if Somalia’s
Problem will be faced honestly.
Q:- Why does
the RRA support the Ethiopian interference in the Somali internal affairs
? and why the
Digil and Mirifle population don’t support the Somali unity and
idea of Greater Somalia?
A:- RRA is
the Digil and Mirifle liberation Army who fought and are still fighting
for a very clear cause
Which is for the Freedom of their population and that is the
difference between our army and the other
Somali militiamen who are actively engaged in a continuing aimless
fighting that vandalized the whole
Somali Nation benefiting from the lawlessness situations , and
avoiding by any means possible the
Establishment of Law and Order knowing that one day they will be
prosecuted for their crimes.
Ethiopia is our Neighboring friend Country , it helped us to
identify ourselves , search for our rights
Helped our refugee population and all Somali refugees. Ethiopia has
never interfered in the Somali
Internal affairs and there are no Ethiopian troops in the Somali
soil except friendly consultants.
One thing must be very clear that the Somali peace and stability is
a concern for Ethiopia, and its
An International right for every country to protect its security
when danger may come from its
Neighboring country. Would any body sleep peacefully when realizing
its Neighbors house on fire.
About the idea of a the Somali unity our position is very clear ;
we will support any kind of a Cen=
Tralized powerful government ; instead we will support a federal
system of government where the
Federal States will govern independently its territory and sharing
equally the political power of
Loose federal Central government with very constitutionally limited
Regarding the idea of a Greater Somalia ; we the Digil and Mirifle
population believe and respect the
U.N Charts of the member States and respect the Internationally
recognized existing borders. Overall
We don’t recognize the Greater Somalia principle ; and advise all
Somali politicians to respect the
Neighboring countries Sovreighnity in order to establish a lasting
peace in the East African region.
Q:- The UN
Secretary General recently declared that according to the report of the UN
fact finding Mission That
recently visited different parts of Somalia ; has declared that there is
no peace and security in Mogadishu
and for that reason the UN will not open its office in Mogadishu.
What is your opinion , and what would suggest?
A:- It is not
a new discovery done by Mr. Kofi Anan; every body knows that there is been
no peace and
Stability in Somalia for about 10 years generally and particularly
in Mogadishu with the exception
Of Somaliland . The UN could play very
important role to solve the Somalia problem instead of
Concentrating all its efforts to deal with Mogadishu warlords by
funding them through protection
Contracts , renting from the warlords the conquered at gunpoint
Houses and Villas while their owners
are suffering in the refugee camps around the World and in Somalia.
The UN has directly or indirectly
fuelled and prolonged the continuation of the brutal war conducted
by the Central region’s militiamen
The UN should approach realistically when dealing with the Somali
problem and stop promoting and
Recognizing the Arta Group , because that will never work.
recent Interview with IRIN you have said that the Digil and Mirifle are
the political balance ;
And that neither Hawiye nor Darod can form a Somali government
without the support of the Digil and
Mirifle population . Can’t the Digil and Mirifle lobby to form a
did not say that the Digil and Mirifle can’t campaign to form a Somali
government instead I would
Reaffirm to all Digil and Mirifle population , and to the Somali
population as well that the Digil and
Mirifle are very capable of forming a Somali Federal government
since both the Hawiye and Darod
Had that opportunity but unfortunately could not succeed to promote
a just and peaceful Somali State.
And because the Digil and mirifle are a majority in the reality ;
plus they own the most fertile land and
Are very productive sedentary Society not continuously moving
Nomadics. We are also the only
Multicultural population that speak more than seven languages with
special cultures and traditions.
When are you planning to declare and form the Digil and Mirifle State ? Do
you have any plan ?
Yes , we have our plan to declare our state as soon as we complete our
For a Digil and Mirifle Conference and all other clans that lived
and reside with us peacefully.
Our state is special because it will reflects the first of its kind
that accepts a multicultural state
With the federal system of government . We are an all inclusive
state and we were so centuries
Ago ; proof of that you can just look at our name “ Digil and
Mirifle’ is a confederation form of
Nation that was formed before even the advanced countries knew
about the idea of federalism.
We have ready our Constitution ; flag and all Internal regulations;
once I declare the State every
Institution will be ready to function lawfully.
Can you tell us briefly the main Articles in your Constitution?
Our state is a Federal State ; that has its boundaries on the Digil and
Our population is mainly the digil and mirifle , but includes and
respects all the rights
Of the non Digil and Mirifle population that lived and shared with
us for years.
Our Capital will be Baidoa ; and our official languages will be
English and May-May.
Our Constitution will respect all
Internationally recognized Rights such as :- the freedom
For existence and life ; the freedom for the press and media ; the
freedom for thought and
Expression ; the freedom for religion ; and will abide by the
international Law respecting
All International States and Neighboring countries.
Dr. Hassan Mohamed Noor ; what would you advise to the Digil and Mirifle
And particularly the Intellectuals ?
To the Digil and Mirifle population I would advise as I have always said
to them to be patient and
Continue with their struggle for their freedom ; because freedom
will never be served to anybody
On a golden plate unless you fight with all what you can life ,
money , ideas ect.
And to the Digil and Mirifle Intellectuals I would advise them to
benefit from their knowledge and
Use their knowledge to free their land and population ; extend the
voice of your population to the
World ears by convincing the International Community that the Digil
and Mirifle population are
Fighting for freedom not for occupation.
Mr. Chairman ; what would you tell the Somali and International Community?
I would tell an easy say that says “ NO JUSTICE , NO PEACE “ ;
in Somalia will not be
Any lasting peaceful solution until an inch of our territory is
occupied by our invaders
Somali Digil and Mirifle population generally and particularly the
Intellectuals and politician in Somalia
in the diaspora (Abroad) North America , Europe , Asia and Australia in
different meetings unanimously
strongly supported their Leaders Statement , and will continue supporting
for his heroic activities
the liberation of his people and territory.
have expressed their thanks to their leader Dr. Hassan Mohamed Noor (
Shatigadud) ; and hoped him
the best and good heath; and for the Digil and Mirifle forces generally
and particularly the RRA go ahead
your righteous fighting until the last inch of their land is liberated.
adviser of D&M
Hassan haji Abukar